[SWFObject] swfobject 1.4 broken in safari 2.0.3 in strict mode

Fri Apr 28 09:03:23 PDT 2006

when i visit that page in IE7 (just installed it) i get prompted to  
download a file. (it doesn't work)

on a related note: when you install ie7 does it remove ie6? that  
seems kinda crappy...

On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Josh Santangelo wrote:

> I don't know, it's working fine for me in IE 6. And the reason I'm  
> using
> it is because I am extending xhtml with an additional namespace.
>
> Test here: http://xekogame.dev.endquote.com/
>
> -josh
>
> Geoff Stearns wrote:
>> right, that post confirms that IE7 won't s support it either.
>>
>> doctype != mime type
>>
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Greg Brant wrote:
>>
>>> Fyi re:"ie doens't even support application/xhtm+xml..."
>>>
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff
>>> Stearns
>>> Sent: 28 April 2006 13:24
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] swfobject 1.4 broken in safari 2.0.3 in
>>> strict
>>> mode
>>>
>>> interesting that safari's strict mode doesn't like
>>> document.location.hash, but firefox is ok with it.
>>>
>>> anyway, the dom stuff is a huge pain in the ass to get to work... i
>>> could make adjustments to make it work in safari, but then it would
>>> break in opera (opera is amazingly picky when creating elements that
>>> aren't in the dom).
>>>
>>> Then, ie doens't even support application/xhtm+xml...
>>>
>>> I did notice that SWFObject does work in Firefox if you send your
>>> pages
>>> as applicaton/xhtml+xml, because for some reason they left
>>> innerHTML on,
>>> but it's not really a documented feature.
>>>
>>> My stance on this subject is basically this: application/xhtml+xml
>>> is a
>>> HUGE pain in the ass to get plugins in general to work when using
>>> Javascript to write them. It seems that every browser requires
>>> different
>>> tags and has different quirks, and I think it's just not really  
>>> worth
>>> it, since using 'real' xhtml doesn't really have any advantage to
>>> 99% of
>>> the people out there.
>>>
>>> Unless you are using MathML or otherwise extending xhtml, there  
>>> aren't
>>> any real benefits to it (not to mention shutting out IE users, or
>>> sending a text/html version of your page anyway).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2006, at 2:06 AM, Josh Santangelo wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm working on a page which is in XHTML 1.1 strict, and SWF object
>>>> breaks in Safari. I thought I'd post about it before trying to fix
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> My document starts like this (served with an application/xhtml+xml
>>>> header):
>>>>
>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
>>>> "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
>>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
>>>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>>>> xmlns:s="http://endquote.com/XMLShell/2.0/" xml:lang="en"> <head>
>>>> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="application/xhtml+xml;
>>>> charset=utf-8" />
>>>>
>>>> On line 161, it breaks if document.location.search is undefined.
>>>> Replacing that line with this:
>>>>
>>>> var q = location.search || location.hash;
>>>>
>>>> Fixes it.
>>>>
>>>> Then it dies on line 106 with a "Dom Exception 7", which seems to
>>>> mean
>>>> you can't write to the innerHTML (a div in this case).
>>>>
>>>> It's looking like the solution is to do a bunch of DOM-style
>>>> createElement calls, then removeChild all the children of the  
>>>> target
>>>> node, then appendChild with the new Flash object.
>>>>
>>>> I could go ahead and make that change, but I thought I'd check  
>>>> to see
>>>> if anyone can duplicate the error, or tell me why that solution  
>>>> would
>>>> be a bad idea.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -josh
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