[SWFObject] Slow HTML page loading when SWFObject is on the page

Sat Dec 9 18:05:32 PST 2006

Thanks, Steve,

That has the twin benefits that it forces the Flash loading to occur after
some of the HTML and it cleans up the code down in the body.

SWFObject's indirect loading does inject a noticeable delay in loading vs.
the stock Macromedia loading direct from the page, but I can live with that,
and I expect it will get sorted out over time.

-David 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Steve Kamerman
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:29 PM
To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Slow HTML page loading when SWFObject is on the
page

Although I've never noticed this problem before, I guess you could execute
the swfobject code after the page loads - but then you might see the div
contents while it's loading:

<head>
<script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script> <script
type="text/javascript">  
   function loadflash(){
	var so = new SWFObject("flashtab.swf", "flashtab", "100", "50",
"8.0.0", "#ffffff");  
   	so.addParam("allowScriptAccess", "sameDomain");  
   	so.addParam("quality", "high");  
   	so.addParam("wmode", "transparent");  
   	so.write("swfdiv_flashtab");
	return true;
   }
 </script>
</head>
<body onload="loadflash();return true;"> <div id="swfdiv_flashtab">  This
text is replaced by the Flash movie.  
</div>
...

Steve Kamerman
Director of IT
Tera Technologies
http://devel.teratechnologies.net/swfhelp/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of David Roudebush
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:57 PM
To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
Subject: [SWFObject] Slow HTML page loading when SWFObject is on the page

Actually, the entire HTML page doesn't load until the flash is sorted out
when I have SWFObject active. The Flash movie just occupies one cell in a
table, so it's hard to see how a preloader is going to help.

I tried putting a background image up on the page in the html that just says
"loading" in hopes that it would render before anything else - but it
doesn't.

Somehow (compared with the Macromedia process) it's hijacking the whole page
load, not just the Flash.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:51 PM
To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Extra space added in table cell

a preloader in your swf is your best bet... just throw in some sort of
notice that there is content loading there.

On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:45 PM, David Roudebush wrote:

> Thanks, Geoff,
>
> It was a problem in my table code, completely unrelated to SWFObject. 
> Sorry to have taken your time on it.
>
> Now everything loads and displays just fine-- except that people 
> hitting the site now get a blank screen while the Flash loads.
>
> Before using SWFObject the rest of the page would load, then the swf 
> would come in. Now it looks as if I need one of those "loading"
> preloader things....
>
> You can compare the two & see the difference, even if you've cached 
> the images
>
> http://www.conlanpress.com <== new version, SWFObject-enhanced.
>
> http://www.conlanpress.com/index_bak.html <== original version, 
> Macromedia imbed
>
> On my machine, it's a 1 second vs. 10 seconds sort of thing.
>
> Any thoughts as to how I can get around the delayed load time?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff 
> Stearns
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:10 PM
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Extra space added in table cell
>
> First of all you should put some alternate content in there for people 
> without flash... maybe a little upgrade message, because if someone 
> doesn't have the right Flash Player version, they will just see a big 
> empty box if you leave it how it is..
>
> as for the space, i'm not sure... it might be a bug in the way IE is 
> displaying the td, maybe one of the script tags (or event he 2 spaces 
> you have inside your div) are adding that space there... maybe one of 
> the elements is set to display: inline and setting it to display:
> block would fix it... i'm not sure.
>
> you'd have to play around with it a bit.
>
> you should also move the script tag that embeds the swfobject.js 
> script up into the head of your document.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 3:58 PM, David Roudebush wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm running a flash movie that fits exactly into a table cell.
>>
>> I've just installed SWFObject to test it out, and it keeps adding 40 
>> pixels or so at the bottom of the cell, distorting the table.
>>
>> I'm sure this is just an idiot-newcomer pilot-error thing, but if you 
>> could point out the issue, I'd appreciate it.
>>
>> http://www.conlanpress.com  <== current, macromedia-style embed
>>
>> http://www.conlanpress.com/index_swf2.html <== my first attempt at 
>> SWFObject.
>>
>>
>> ==============================
>> Secondary questions:
>>
>> 1) Can I place the scripts somewhere else (such as the header) as 
>> opposed to the actual table cell?
>>
>> 2) Is the sequence important?
>>
>> Thanks very much! SWFObject does exactly what I was hoping to do, and 
>> it's all, well, DONE. Thank you.
>>
>> -David
>>
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