[SWFObject] Best practices for installation

Sat Jul 29 06:55:31 PDT 2006

Michael, 

This is totally and awfully good news for everyone who wants Flash
Player 9 worldwide 90% penetration as fast as possible.

Knowing the fact that MySpace.com recently became the Real Site Number
One by Hits (leaving the Google and Yahoo! Mail behind) I'm really
encouraged!

http://weblogs.hitwise.com/bill-tancer/2006/07/myspace_moves_into_1_posi
tion.html

When site # 1 by hits makes such traffic for downloads, this is a
victory :)

And slow express install speed looks not so bad when I think about its
real cause -- a huge number of downloads of Flash Player 9!

However, isn't it good way to increase number of file servers / capacity
of the channel to support such big success? 

Sincerely,

Rostislav Siryk
http://flash-ripper.com/

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com [mailto:swfobject-
>> bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:11 AM
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com; swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Best practices for installation
>> 
>> This is because MySpace is using Express Install to force all of
there
>> users to Flash Player 9 for security reasons. This is causing the
>> Macromedia servers that drive express install to run particularly
slow.
>> It is hard for us to actually reduce the traffic given that Myspace
is #1
>> or #2 in the US with respect to traffic. So we are currently being a
>> victim of the success of Express Install. It's acutally TOO easy to
use
>> and now the servers are getting slow.
>> 
>> We are working on improving the situation, but it may be slow for a
few
>> more weeks.
>> 
>> --
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com on behalf of Cosmic
>> Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 10:27 AM
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Best practices for installation
>> 
>> have people been seeing extremely long connect times for the express
>> install? I have been seeing connect times up to like 2-5 minutes
>> lately. Does anyone know why this is?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Peter
>> On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>> 
>> > yeah you could try that... i would really recommend just directing
>> > them to the adobe site and using expressinstall... that way most
>> > people will be upgraded right there (with no activex window popup)
>> > or they just go to adobe and get it from them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:
>> >
>> >> That is great advice, Geoff - thanks. So do you just include
>> >> 'flash not here' content with the link and instructions to refresh
>> >> the page when the download is done?
>> >>
>> >> -Brian
>> >>
>> >> From: Geoff Stearns [mailto:geoff at deconcept.com]
>> >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:38 AM
>> >> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Best practices for installation
>> >>
>> >> i suggest using a normal object/embed tag if you want to force a
>> >> activex install on your site....
>> >>
>> >> then when the install finishes, just send them back to the
>> >> original page and swfobject should see that they now have the
>> >> correct version installed.
>> >>
>> >> i normally don't like doing hte activex installs anymore.. too
>> >> many people think it's spyware and might just leave when they see
>> >> that box pop up. not to mention the little yellow bar they have to
>> >> click. sending them to the adobe site seems more trustworthy to me
>> >> (although i do hate that they bundle the yh toolbar with it now -
>> >> but at least it's optional and only IE users get offered it)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Good morning!
>> >>>
>> >>> We stumbled across this library earlier this week and it looks
>> >>> very very promising to solve a lot of the cross-browser flash
>> >>> problems we've been running into. But after searching through the
>> >>> archives of this list and the blogs, I still have a very newbie
>> >>> question.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can see how I can check versions against the one I require, and
>> >>> build the alternate content to direct the user to a download. But
>> >>> it seems we lose the nice automagic installation we get with the
>> >>> object tag method. That is, once we direct the user to download
>> >>> the right version of Flash, what's the best way to get our stuff
>> >>> to reload and display now that flash is there? Page refresh?
>> >>>
>> >>> And a related question - is there a URL to download flash that
>> >>> doesn't suggest the nasty Yahoo toolbar?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks so much for a great tool!
>> >>>
>> >>> -Brian
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Brian Smithson
>> >>> Product Manager
>> >>> Insignia Group, LC
>> >>> Providers of oeaccessories.com
>> >>> 704-588-0142 x8604
>> >>>
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