[SWFObject] SWF Object and CSS drop menus

[Michael Ypes]

I knew about that one, but the pros out weighed the cons and I don't see
safari as a big enough browser to worry about it. I am sure some of you will
disagree but at the end of the day if they ain't paying for it to be
compatible on every single browser then they ain't getting it.

I believe, it is because Safari does not support the wmode tag as other
browsers do. The only way of getting round it is to hide the flash div when
displaying the menu which I did not want to do. It is a known bug in safari
and any google search will show countless problems with it.

E.G. 
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dhtml+over+flash+safari&meta=
http://www.milonic.com/mfa/2005-July/006251.html

The days of me worrying endlessly about a piece of work not working on a
minority browser are long gone. And I must say I sleep a lot better at night
for it :)

Cheers

M

p.s. thanks for letting us know though, I should use this mailing list to
test all my work, he he.

p.p.s I believe that the Apple Corporation are aware of this bug but haven't
done anything about it.

-----Original Message-----
From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
[mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Ben Huson
Sent: 21 June 2006 10:22
To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWF Object and CSS drop menus

Mike,

Just to let you know, I'm using Safari 2.0.3 and the drop down you  
mention below works intermittently over Flash.
See here:

Works OK - http://benhuson.com/temp/dd_flash_1.png
...and sometimes not - http://benhuson.com/temp/dd_flash_2.png

- Ben


On 21 Jun 2006, at 08:16, Michael Ypes wrote:

> Hi Brion
>
>
>
> I had to do exactly the same thing a while back and I got it to  
> work fine. What I did find however is that not all the cross  
> browser (supposedly) compliant js dropdowns worked cross browser.  
> As Geoff said it probably isn't a problem with the swfobject but  
> more with the js code.
>
>
>
> If you look at this site ( http://www.ellesco.co.uk ) it does  
> exactly what you want. Feel free to rip it out and use it. The drop  
> down is done using bullet lists aswell so it is search engine  
> friendly. Can't quite remember where I got it from but it is a well  
> known drop down solution which I have got working over flash.
>
>
>
> I will try and remember exactly where I got the drop down menu from.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com [mailto:swfobject- 
> bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Brion Keith Mills
> Sent: 20 June 2006 22:38
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWF Object and CSS drop menus
>
>
>
> Thanks for your promt response!
>
> I am using wmode=transparent. The browser in question is IE6 on  
> Virtual PC -- although I imagine it is no different on an actual PC.
>
> Here is the URL I'm working on: http://65.115.104.39/1105Media/ 
> index_v3.html
>
>
> On 6/20/06, Geoff Stearns < geoff at deconcept.com> wrote:
>
> swfobject doesn't do anything special in terms of overlaying things  
> over it.
>
>
>
> if you are using wmode=transparent/opaque and it doesn't work,  
> there's not really anything else you can do.
>
>
>
> flash has always been really finicky when it comes to overlaying  
> things, it just depends on the browser and what you are placing on  
> top of it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Brion Mills wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello Geoff,
>
> Let me first start off by both thanking and congradulating you on  
> your success with swfObject.
>
> I am contacting you regarding an issue that was brought up in your  
> "Why don't you use FlashObject?" post.
>
> In the comments section, a user addressed the problems with Flash  
> transparency. I implemented your suggestion to place the fo.write  
> after all of the parameters. I did that and it worked partially.
>
> I am using a CSS drop menu, with a touch of javascript. FF of  
> course doesn't cause any issues. However, IE6 doesn't agree with  
> this at all. Upon rolling over the menu, the flash movie still  
> forces the menu items behind it. I have tried a number of z-index  
> solutions with no success.
>
> If you have the time, could you please show me a contextual example  
> of how this should work?
>
> Thanks again for all of your hard work!
>
> Brion
>
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