<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">well, the adobe fix doesn't include plugin detection... and I don't think it supports Express Install if you want to use that.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV>And the code may be smaller (I haven't examined the active content fix that closely)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You seem to have a ton of other js code in your document that could all be removed and replaced by swfobject as well.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">no sorry your not missing anything. But heres an additional question. How hard would it be for me to integrate flash object into what I have presently? What would the advantages be? Other than that every one else is already using it. My content appears to be working fine but I know that I will need to eventually integrate the swfObject. Any advice?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="geoff@deconcept.com" href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com">Geoff Stearns</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 28, 2006 4:55 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing up in FireFoxandNetscape - The Answer!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>neither of those sites is using SWFObject... the first one is using the mm active content fix, and the second one is just a normal embed... am I missing something? <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Apr 28, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">I am using swfObject. Want to see the scripting in action, here is a link to one of our sites <A href="http://www.strunkLp.com">www.strunkLp.com</A> this site is using a flash header. It is not the generator content site that I was trying to view in firefox <A href="http://www.mikewileyproductions.com">http://www.mikewileyproductions.com</A> Let me know what you think. These sites are in our production environment and have been released to the web. Currently in our development environment we have corrected the problem utilizing the ASP code that I was talking about before.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">You are right about the Flash object working in Firefox and netscape, for the first example that I listed, StrunkLP that is a flash hybrid site with a flash header and it displays fine, the displaying issue has something to do with the content that is created and published via generator.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Oh and BTW, I don't use generator as it is a dead technology for the most part, I am simply turning wrenches here at work trying to get the technology to continue to work effectively given the current IE active content turbulence in the WWW...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Chad</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="geoff@deconcept.com" href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com">Geoff Stearns</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing up in FireFox andNetscape - The Answer!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>are you using swfobject? or some other js scheme? <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>swfobject works fine in firefox/safari/mozilla/opera/whatever - can you post a link to the page?</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Ok so a little researching got me some nifty browser detection schemes and now I am able to see the flash content in all browsers. All we ended up using was some ASP "HTTP_USER_AGENT" and some conditional logic to direct the browser based on browser name, then used the new JS function for IE, and the old way with the <object> <embed> tags for anything other than IE.... works really well.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Chad</FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">SWFObject mailing list</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <HR> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>SWFObject mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A><BR><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">SWFObject mailing list</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><HR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>SWFObject mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A><BR>http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">SWFObject mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>