<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">well, ms released their active content mxp file, but you have to run an extra command to copy the js file into the folder with your fla file.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>it would be nice to automate the whole thing, just publish and it drops in all the files you need... but i don't think flash 8 supports that.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Aran Rhee wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="203310203-29042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Geoff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="203310203-29042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="203310203-29042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I few weeks ago, I posted a flash mx2004/8 publishing template to the list which uses SWFObject. If someone from MM can tell us how to publish not just the page, but a .js file with it, that would be great.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="203310203-29042006"></SPAN><FONT face="Arial"><FONT color="#0000ff"><FONT size="2">A<SPAN class="203310203-29042006">ran </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <HR tabindex="-1"> <FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com [<A href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com">mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Geoff Stearns<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 29 April 2006 8:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing upinFireFoxandNetscape - The Answer!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV>too bad you can't just update the Flash 8 publish output and just use SWFObject. <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Michael Williams wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Adobe will be releasing a Detection Kit revision with the Active Content JS in the coming weeks. Just have to work out a few bugs.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Michael<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabindex="-1" align="center" width="100%" size="2"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</A> [<A href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com">mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Geoff Stearns<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, April 28, 2006 3:22 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing up inFireFoxandNetscape - The Answer!</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">well, the adobe fix doesn't include plugin detection... and I don't think it supports Express Install if you want to use that.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And the code may be smaller (I haven't examined the active content fix that closely)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You seem to have a ton of other js code in your document that could all be removed and replaced by swfobject as well.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">no sorry your not missing anything. But heres an additional question. How hard would it be for me to integrate flash object into what I have presently? What would the advantages be? Other than that every one else is already using it. My content appears to be working fine but I know that I will need to eventually integrate the swfObject. Any advice?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"><P class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title="geoff@deconcept.com" href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com">Geoff Stearns</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title="swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Friday, April 28, 2006 4:55 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing up in FireFoxandNetscape - The Answer!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">neither of those sites is using SWFObject... the first one is using the mm active content fix, and the second one is just a normal embed... am I missing something? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Apr 28, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am using swfObject. Want to see the scripting in action, here is a link to one of our sites <A href="http://www.strunkLp.com">www.strunkLp.com</A> this site is using a flash header. It is not the generator content site that I was trying to view in firefox <A href="http://www.mikewileyproductions.com">http://www.mikewileyproductions.com</A> Let me know what you think. These sites are in our production environment and have been released to the web. Currently in our development environment we have corrected the problem utilizing the ASP code that I was talking about before.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You are right about the Flash object working in Firefox and netscape, for the first example that I listed, StrunkLP that is a flash hybrid site with a flash header and it displays fine, the displaying issue has something to do with the content that is created and published via generator.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oh and BTW, I don't use generator as it is a dead technology for the most part, I am simply turning wrenches here at work trying to get the technology to continue to work effectively given the current IE active content turbulence in the WWW...</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chad</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message ----- <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV style="font-color: black"><P class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title="geoff@deconcept.com" href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com">Geoff Stearns</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title="swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [SWFObject] [SWF Object] FGlash not showing up in FireFox andNetscape - The Answer!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">are you using swfobject? or some other js scheme? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">swfobject works fine in firefox/safari/mozilla/opera/whatever - can you post a link to the page?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Chad M. Ostroff wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok so a little researching got me some nifty browser detection schemes and now I am able to see the flash content in all browsers. All we ended up using was some ASP "HTTP_USER_AGENT" and some conditional logic to direct the browser based on browser name, then used the new JS function for IE, and the old way with the <object> <embed> tags for anything other than IE.... works really well.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chad</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> <O:P></O:P></P></DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN 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