Gordon,<br><br>Thank you for helping solve this issue! I attempted several z-index settings, obviously none of them worked.<br><br>This was the one thing that would have prevented me from proposing my idea for this layout.
<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Jim</span> - I agree that this could have been accomplished by doing it in Flash...and certainly much more elegantly. However, it was requested that I use the same markup for backend purposes -- but redesign the front-end. So I had few options to explore in terms of the navigation. Not to mention search engine issues.
<br><br>Thanks for your feedback though.<br><br><br> - Brion<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/21/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jim Berkey</b> <<a href="mailto:jim@jimbo.us">jim@jimbo.us</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
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<div>Thanks for being kind to an old fart :) my wife tells me very often
how dumb I am with some things. Yes, the perfect search engine page content is
indeed an elusive and constantly moving target.</div>
<div>jimbo<br><font face="Arial" size="2">*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********</font></div><div><span class="e" id="q_10bf6935f45453c4_1"><font face="Arial" size="2"><br><br>On 6/21/2006 at 1:08 PM Michael Ypes wrote:</font></span></div><div></div></div><div><span class="e" id="q_10bf6935f45453c4_3">
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Well there can be
many reasons, mine was because I wanted it to be able to be search engine
friendly, don't google it though as it doesn't come up </span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Wingdings;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Also if the user
wants content under the menu which isn't flash then there will probably be a
whole bag of issues with that as well. Never tried it personally as I have
tried to steer clear of it. If the content was all flash then they could, as
you said, do a drop down menu driven by an external xml file. I did one when I
built the animal site ( <a href="http://www.animal.co.uk/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.animal.co.uk</a> – does not use the
swfobject ).</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">From a personal point
of view I always prefer building navigation systems in flash as they are more
appealing and you have full control in how they behave and interact with the
user.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">By the way I wouldn't
say your dumb, just intellectual challenged </span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Wingdings;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> he
he</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Cheers</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">M</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Jim Berkey<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 21 June 2006 12:40<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [SWFObject] SWFObject
Digest, Vol 3, Issue 26</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p></div>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What am I
missing? After following this thread for a while, I see a flash author trying
to jigger a css dropdown menu to work cross-browser on top of a flash file. Am
I dumb(rhetorical- please don't answer)? - why don't you just create the
menu - much more elegantly (imho), within the flash file? Is there a design
restraint that I'm not seeing? The menu can even be xml driven if it
will change often.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********<br><br>On 6/21/2006 at 12:00 PM Gordon Newell wrote:</span></font>
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">Brion,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;"><div
style="z-index: 2" id="header"> (I added the style="Z-index:
2")</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">and</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;"><div
style="z-index: 1" id="flash1"> (I added the style="Z-index:
1")</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">It works
;)</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">Gordon.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Brion Keith
Mills<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 21
June 2006 9:53 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [SWFObject] SWFObject
Digest, Vol 3, Issue 26</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks Jason,<br><br>However, when I
changed to: </span></font><font face="Courier New"><span>so.addParam("wmode", "<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">opaque</span></b>");</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">
I got the same
results.<br><br>I'm beginning to think this is hopeless. Here's the link to
the Flash in question: <a href="http://65.115.104.39/1105Media/index_v3.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://65.115.104.39/1105Media/index_v3.html</a></span></font></p>
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<p><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On 6/20/06, <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Jason Grunstra</span></b> <<a href="mailto:jgrunstra@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jgrunstra@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">wmode = "opaque" typically gives better frame rate
performance, and<br>will also allow you to display layers overtop of
Flash<br><br>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWF Object and CSS drop
menus<br>> did you try wmode = "transparent" ? <br>><br>> On 6/20/06,
Brion Mills <<a href="mailto:bmills@101com.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">bmills@101com.com</a>>
wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Hello Geoff,<br>>
><br>> > Let me first start off by both thanking and congradulating
you on your <br>> success with swfObject.<br>> ><br>> > I am
contacting you regarding an issue that was brought up in your "Why<br>>
don't you use FlashObject?" post.<br>> ><br>> > In the comments
section, a user addressed the problems with Flash <br>> transparency. I
implemented your suggestion to place the fo.write after all<br>> of the
parameters. I did that and it worked partially.<br>> ><br>> > I am
using a CSS drop menu, with a touch of javascript. FF of course <br>>
doesn't cause any issues. However, IE6 doesn't agree with this at all.
Upon<br>> rolling over the menu, the flash movie still forces the menu
items behind<br>> it. I have tried a number of z-index solutions with no
success. <br>> ><br>> > If you have the time, could you please
show me a contextual example of how<br>> this should work?<br>>
><br>> > Thanks again for all of your hard work!<br>> ><br>>
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