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<DIV>Thanks for being kind to an old fart :) my wife tells me very often
how dumb I am with some things. Yes, the perfect search engine page content is
indeed an elusive and constantly moving target.</DIV>
<DIV>jimbo<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********<BR><BR>On 6/21/2006 at 1:08 PM Michael Ypes wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well there can be
many reasons, mine was because I wanted it to be able to be search engine
friendly, don’t google it though as it doesn’t come up </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also if the user
wants content under the menu which isn’t flash then there will probably be a
whole bag of issues with that as well. Never tried it personally as I have
tried to steer clear of it. If the content was all flash then they could, as
you said, do a drop down menu driven by an external xml file. I did one when I
built the animal site ( <A
href="http://www.animal.co.uk/">http://www.animal.co.uk</A> – does not use the
swfobject ).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From a personal point
of view I always prefer building navigation systems in flash as they are more
appealing and you have full control in how they behave and interact with the
user.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By the way I wouldn’t
say your dumb, just intellectual challenged </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> he
he<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com
[mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jim Berkey<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 21 June 2006 12:40<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
swfobject@lists.deconcept.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [SWFObject] SWFObject
Digest, Vol 3, Issue 26</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What am I
missing? After following this thread for a while, I see a flash author trying
to jigger a css dropdown menu to work cross-browser on top of a flash file. Am
I dumb(rhetorical- please don't answer)? - why don't you just create the
menu - much more elegantly (imho), within the flash file? Is there a design
restraint that I'm not seeing? The menu can even be xml driven if it
will change often.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********<BR><BR>On 6/21/2006 at 12:00 PM Gordon Newell wrote:</SPAN></FONT>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brion,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><div
style="z-index: 2" id="header"> (I added the style="Z-index:
2")</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><div
style="z-index: 1" id="flash1"> (I added the style="Z-index:
1")</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It works
;)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gordon.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com
[mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Brion Keith
Mills<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 21
June 2006 9:53 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
swfobject@lists.deconcept.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [SWFObject] SWFObject
Digest, Vol 3, Issue 26</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks Jason,<BR><BR>However, when I
changed to: </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">so.addParam("wmode", "<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">opaque</SPAN></B>");</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I got the same
results.<BR><BR>I'm beginning to think this is hopeless. Here's the link to
the Flash in question: <A
href="http://65.115.104.39/1105Media/index_v3.html">http://65.115.104.39/1105Media/index_v3.html</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 6/20/06, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Jason Grunstra</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:jgrunstra@gmail.com">jgrunstra@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">wmode = "opaque" typically gives better frame rate
performance, and<BR>will also allow you to display layers overtop of
Flash<BR><BR>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWF Object and CSS drop
menus<BR>> did you try wmode = "transparent" ? <BR>><BR>> On 6/20/06,
Brion Mills <<A href="mailto:bmills@101com.com">bmills@101com.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Hello Geoff,<BR>>
><BR>> > Let me first start off by both thanking and congradulating
you on your <BR>> success with swfObject.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am
contacting you regarding an issue that was brought up in your "Why<BR>>
don't you use FlashObject?" post.<BR>> ><BR>> > In the comments
section, a user addressed the problems with Flash <BR>> transparency. I
implemented your suggestion to place the fo.write after all<BR>> of the
parameters. I did that and it worked partially.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am
using a CSS drop menu, with a touch of javascript. FF of course <BR>>
doesn't cause any issues. However, IE6 doesn't agree with this at all.
Upon<BR>> rolling over the menu, the flash movie still forces the menu
items behind<BR>> it. I have tried a number of z-index solutions with no
success. <BR>> ><BR>> > If you have the time, could you please
show me a contextual example of how<BR>> this should work?<BR>>
><BR>> > Thanks again for all of your hard work!<BR>> ><BR>>
> Brion <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>SWFObject
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<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Brion K. Mills,<BR>Interactive Media
Designer<BR>Creative Mills Design <BR><A
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