<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>yeah you could try that... i would really recommend just directing them to the adobe site and using expressinstall... that way most people will be upgraded right there (with no activex window popup) or they just go to adobe and get it from them.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="015404815-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">That is great advice, Geoff - thanks. So do you just include 'flash not here' content with the link and instructions to refresh the page when the download is done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="015404815-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="015404815-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">-Brian</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <HR tabindex="-1"> <FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> Geoff Stearns [<A href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com">mailto:geoff@deconcept.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 28, 2006 11:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com">swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SWFObject] Best practices for installation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>i suggest using a normal object/embed tag if you want to force a activex install on your site....</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>then when the install finishes, just send them back to the original page and swfobject should see that they now have the correct version installed.</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>i normally don't like doing hte activex installs anymore.. too many people think it's spyware and might just leave when they see that box pop up. not to mention the little yellow bar they have to click. sending them to the adobe site seems more trustworthy to me (although i do hate that they bundle the yh toolbar with it now - but at least it's optional and only IE users get offered it)</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Good morning!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">We stumbled across this library earlier this week and it looks very very promising to solve a lot of the cross-browser flash problems we've been running into. But after searching through the archives of this list and the blogs, I still have a very newbie question.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">I can see how I can check versions against the one I require, and build the alternate content to direct the user to a download. But it seems we lose the nice automagic installation we get with the object tag method. That is, once we direct the user to download the right version of Flash, what's the best way to get our stuff to reload and display now that flash is there? Page refresh?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">And a related question - is there a URL to download flash that doesn't suggest the nasty Yahoo toolbar?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Thanks so much for a great tool!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">-Brian</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="796072015-28072006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align="left"><STRONG><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Brian Smithson</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Product Manager</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Insignia Group, LC</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Providers of oeaccessories.com</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">704-588-0142 x8604</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">SWFObject mailing list</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">SWFObject mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com">SWFObject@lists.deconcept.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com">http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>