This might be of use or relevance:<br><br>What we are building is a 'prep' page as it were to make people more aware of the exciting reasons they should upgrade to flash.<br><br>Call it service netting. Instead of just pushing them to install flash just because they need it, we are taking the time to tell them why and assure them it is exciting and wonderful - improving the overall user experience.
<br><br>It creates a much more positive spin before directing them to the Adobe page which pushes not so great Yahoo tool bars on the user.<br><br>I have abandoned express install, after 15+ hours trying to get it to work properly I think it is a (sorry to say) poor implementation of an upgrade service.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Michael<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/28/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Cosmic</b> <<a href="mailto:cosmic@cosmic-groove.net">cosmic@cosmic-groove.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="">have people been seeing extremely long connect times for the express install? I have been seeing connect times up to like 2-5 minutes lately. Does anyone know why this is?<div><br></div><div>Thanks</div>
<div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><span class="e" id="q_10cb62d87448a17f_1"><br><div><div>On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Geoff Stearns wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>yeah you could try that... i would really recommend just directing them to the adobe site and using expressinstall... that way most people will be upgraded right there (with no activex window popup) or they just go to adobe and get it from them.
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">That is great advice, Geoff - thanks. So do you just include 'flash not here' content with the link and instructions to refresh the page when the download is done?
</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">-Brian</font></span></div>
<br> <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Geoff Stearns [<a href="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com" title="mailto:geoff@deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
mailto:geoff@deconcept.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2006 11:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" title="mailto:swfobject@lists.deconcept.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
swfobject@lists.deconcept.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SWFObject] Best practices for installation<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div>i suggest using a normal object/embed tag if you want to force a activex install on your site....
</div> <div><br></div> <div>then when the install finishes, just send them back to the original page and swfobject should see that they now have the correct version installed.</div> <div><br></div> <div>i normally don't like doing hte activex installs anymore.. too many people think it's spyware and might just leave when they see that box pop up. not to mention the little yellow bar they have to click. sending them to the adobe site seems more trustworthy to me (although i do hate that they bundle the yh toolbar with it now - but at least it's optional and only IE users get offered it)
</div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div><br> <div> <div>On Jul 28, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Brian Smithson wrote:</div><br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Good morning!</font></span>
</div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">We stumbled across this library earlier this week and it looks very very promising to solve a lot of the cross-browser flash problems we've been running into. But after searching through the archives of this list and the blogs, I still have a very newbie question.
</font></span></div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">I can see how I can check versions against the one I require, and build the alternate content to direct the user to a download. But it seems we lose the nice automagic installation we get with the object tag method. That is, once we direct the user to download the right version of Flash, what's the best way to get our stuff to reload and display now that flash is there? Page refresh?
</font></span></div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">And a related question - is there a URL to download flash that doesn't suggest the nasty Yahoo toolbar?
</font></span></div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks so much for a great tool!</font></span></div> <div><span><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>
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