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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078052103-02112006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Stephen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078052103-02112006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><STRONG>Menu page</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078052103-02112006></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>A<SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>ttached is a very simple rewrite of your menu frame
page using swfObject. I haven't changed your table mark-up etc. This will detect
for flash version 8 in the users machine and display the flash menu, otherwise
display the alternative content described in the "flashcontent"
<DIV>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>You just need to change the name of the html file and
also upload the swfObject.js file into the same
directory.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=078052103-02112006></DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>BTW - you could most likely export the menu as flash 6
or 7, as it doesn't seem to use any advanced flash 8 features, or any AS2
classes etc. If you are only using getURL commands on your buttons, flash 6 (mx)
is a safe export version.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=078052103-02112006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006><SPAN class=078052103-02112006>You can use the same
basic idea and put it on your banner page
too.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=078052103-02112006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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class=078052103-02112006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006><STRONG>Book/Site</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>Are you wanting to learn java or JavaScript? JavaScript
is what is used as part of swfObject to do client-side scripting for browsers,
where as Java is a completely different language which is used on enterprise
level server side coding (and cross platform offline applications). I presume
you mean JavaScript, but perhaps not as Java and flash can be combined for more
complex web based applications (like the one I am presently working
on)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=078052103-02112006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>Flash books - something like "Foundation Flash 8" by
friends of ed (<A
href="http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590595424">http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590595424</A>)
would be a good place to start, with it's sister book on the coding side of
things "Foundation actionscript for flash 8" (<A
href="http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590596188">http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590596188</A>).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>JavaScript - I am self taught in this area since
actionscript and JavaScript are almost identical in terms of syntax,
but something like "JavaScript: a beginners guide" is a good start, and is
supposed to be good (<A
href="http://www.pageresource.com/jsbook.htm">http://www.pageresource.com/jsbook.htm</A>)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>For flash beginners questions, there are more general
lists and forums such as <A
href="http://www.actionscript.org">http://www.actionscript.org</A> or <A
href="http://www.flashkit.com">http://www.flashkit.com</A> etc. This is
really a small list specifically for swfObject related questions (which your's
was :), but I am unsure if you will learn the sort of general things you want to
know about flash/JavaScript here. You are of course welcome to do so
though.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006>Aran</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=078052103-02112006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com
[mailto:swfobject-bounces@lists.deconcept.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stephen M.
Rapp<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 2 November 2006 2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
swfobject@lists.deconcept.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [SWFObject] Knock,
knock<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>I'd like to introduce myself. I'm 56, father of five (10 including
my wife's. Don't be in shock, they're all gone off now ). I live outside
Asheville, NC, in a beautiful forest. Moved here a year ago from Sundance,
Utah. I'm a writer and a passionate Mac hack. I'm interested in promoting my
wife's bookmaking art and have taken up web design, more as a hobby then a
career. I do love my computer though. Started on a SE in the early 80's System
6, Compuserve, Microphone, Word 3 and HyperCard. I fell behind in the early
90's with a monastic stint in Sante Fe, and when I re-emerged, it was System 7
and color.
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>I'm not totally newbie. <A href="http://www.chfda.com">www.chfda.com</A>
but nowhere near where I'd like to be.</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Need a little direction.</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>My first issue is fixing an Active content fix for a volunteer job I did
for the Pisgah Forest Institute. <FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><A
href="http://pisgahforestinstitute.org.whsites.net/WEB/index.html">http://pisgahforestinstitute.org.whsites.net/WEB/index.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px" size=3><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">I jumped through all the hoops I could, to deal with
the Flash menu I made but it still doesn't show up in Explorer 6 -x. I've read
around and think there's a coding fix, but I'm no where close to dropping
snippets willy nilly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">If there's a benevolent tech
god out there, who could help me, the PFI would be grateful, and I'd appear
the hero. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Second, what's the gateway
(book or site) to learn these deep Flash site codes and the related java. I've
done one site (the mdr one) from a Flash template. It took months of trial and
many errors and I couldn't tell you how I did it if my life counted on it, but
I'd like to be able to do more from scratch, for fun and in the intrest of a
couple of multi-media sites I have in mind.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">I don't plan to drop in and
then disappear, I'd like to hang out and grow with the group. I'm willing to
do the learning curve struggle, on my own, so I'm not the dumb kid in the
club.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Am I barking up the right
tree?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR
class=khtml-block-placeholder></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">Stephen
Rapp</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 16px"><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">huck555</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>