[SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued

Mon Oct 9 09:08:44 PDT 2006

Hi Geoff,

Sorry for not being clear enough but the click-sound is not the issue
anymore because your latest integkit completely eliminated the click in
IE.

I've got a demo page
http://development.tnmedia.nl/integkit/onthefly.html that hopefully
explains what I'm trying to accomplish.

Your integkit works 100% ok when flash is embedded during onload (To
also show that the IE click sound is gone I've changed in your original
demo the href links to <div>-onclick events).

What I need is to add flash on-the-fly using SWFobject and also have the
features of the Integkit available. I want to use your solution because
1) I like SWFobject and 2)your version of the Integkit doesn't have the
IE-click.

I've written two simple functions to add or remove flash to a page and
they work fine in Firefox (see my demo), but somehow in IE the
communication drops after the first call from Javascript to Flash. And
from the start there is nothing happening between Flash and javascript.

I think Aran has got a good point when he suggested that somehow the
connection to the proxy gets lost.

Cheers,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
[mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff
Stearns
Sent: maandag 9 oktober 2006 17:43
To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued

so i'm confused, does my latest version have the click sounds or not?

i have an example page that uses an interval to send data to flash,  
and that interval doesn't make any sound when it's called.

but when you click a html link, you get the click sound (i was under  
the impression that you can't get rid of that part - or does the  
original kit not click when you do that?)

On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:47 AM, David de Kock |TNmedia wrote:

> Hi Geoff and Aran,
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Its great to get back to work after a day off (without computers) and 
> see this kind of feedback.
>
> @Aran,
> Thanks for getting the concept working with the original MM 
> JavaScriptFlashGateway.js at least I can continue (on planning)
> with my
> work.
> You asked about '1 weirdness in IE' but I can't replicate that. In  
> IE I
> cant 'ping' at all to JS. What you might be seeing is that every time
> when you click the loadButton the function checks if flash is already
> loaded and if so it removes the current flash before reloading it  
> again.
> (I had added this feature as a (nasty) workaround but it only works  
> for
> static flash not for flash that uses external data like in my  
> case .flv)
>
> Seems smart to me that you create the FlashProxy in the HEAD only once

> and never destroy it, this saves on overhead every time when flash
> gets
> dynamically loaded.
> Only I wonder how this should be done in case multiple flash will be
> loaded to a page (maybe by setting a max to the amount of flash loaded
> into a page).
>
> @Geoff,
> Yes, (like Aran already replied) I've used the latest intkit I've 
> downloaded it last Saturday night. I'll set up a test page with both 
> my and Aran's improvements. I'll
> start
> working on it now (after cup of coffee).
>
> Cheers all,
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff 
> Stearns
> Sent: maandag 9 oktober 2006 2:45
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued
>
>
> eeentiresting... as long as the fscommand code is in the page, and the

> IE version is using that method it should work fine with no
> clicks..
>
> can anyone set up a test page for this? something that drops in a 
> flash movie on the fly vs. embedded 'normally'?
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2006, at 5:54 PM, Aran Rhee wrote:
>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> I downloaded it last night.
>>
>> It only seems to be an issue with David's dynamic (onClick) creation 
>> technique. If you are using it with the standard onLoad creation 
>> method, it is all happy.
>>
>> Aran
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of Geoff 
>>> Stearns
>>> Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 11:53 PM
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued
>>>
>>> how long ago did you download the zip file? i just updated it last 
>>> week because of the 'only one click works in IE' issue - if you have

>>> an older version, grab the latest from my site and try it out again.
>>>
>>> did you get the clicking sound in IE fixed?
>>>
>>> http://blog.deconcept.com/code/intkit/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:28 PM, David de Kock |TNmedia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I've got the integration kit demo running without problems, the

>>>> updated code did the trick.
>>>>
>>>> But I've got some IE issues when I try to use the
>>> integration kit for
>>>> my specific purposes.
>>>>
>>>> I need to the intkit working in the situation when flash/SWFObject 
>>>> gets loaded dynamically (onclick) instead during pageload
>>> as SWFobject
>>>> does it by default.
>>>>
>>>> I've got it working fine for FF but IE is not cooperating.
>>>>
>>>> IE only allows one call from AS to JS and than it just sits there 
>>>> doing nothing anymore, from the maillist I've understood
>>> that this was
>>>> also a bug sometime ago for the default deployment but I can figure

>>>> out how that was fixed. It seems related though.
>>>>
>>>> I've got a test page here: 
>>>> http://development.tnmedia.nl/integkit/so_integrationkit.html
>>>>
>>>> For both FF and IE the dynamic loading (and removing) of
>>> flash works
>>>> fine.
>>>> Once loaded in FF the integration between AS and JS is fine. Once 
>>>> loaded in IE only one call from JS to AS is working, the calls 
>>>> afterwards are not coming through. AS to JS is not working at all.
>>>>
>>>> I hope somebody has got an idea of whats my problem?
>>>>
>>>> I've moved back from Externalinterface to integration kit
>>> because of
>>>> performance problems with Externalinterface in IE and now
>>> it seems I'm
>>>> stuck again on IE again :p
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of
>>> David de
>>>> Kock |TNmedia
>>>> Sent: zondag 8 oktober 2006 0:49
>>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Geoff and all others,
>>>>
>>>> Couple of weeks I've had my hands on the FO Integration Kit but I 
>>>> could get it working 100% (I couldn't get rid of the
>>> annoying IE click
>>>> every time flash talked to JS). I decided to go with flash8 and 
>>>> Externalinterface and at first I was very pleased with it
>>> because it
>>>> was very easy to get it working.
>>>>
>>>> But in unit-testing I've found out that Externalinterface performs 
>>>> really bad (on IE only as it seems), when it is looping (5 calls
>>>> per
>>>> sec) for more than 30 secs.
>>>>
>>>> I can't launch my stuff like this so I'm going back to use
>>> the Integ
>>>> kit/SWFObject.
>>>>
>>>> Was it just me being dumb that I couldn't get it working
>>> (getting rid
>>>> of the IE click)? I'm going to try again but if somebody
>>> can help me
>>>> with some example code I would be really happy.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Mike Doran
>>>> Sent: zaterdag 30 september 2006 9:36
>>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems - continued
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for that - yep, it now works fine (in IE 6 and FF
>>> 1.5) - you've
>>>> saved me from the wrath of a client - although I reckon it's their 
>>>> fault for not using flash 8 and externalInterface :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/06, swfobject-request at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> <swfobject-request at lists.deconcept.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:16:16 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] FO Integration Kit problems -
>>> continued ok,
>>>>> it's very possible that i uploaded an old version somewhere in 
>>>>> there..
>>>>>
>>>>> i grabbed a version off my HD and it seems to be working in my IE6

>>>>> install, so check it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.deconcept.com/code/intkit/
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry about the confusion... i really need to throw this
>>> stuff into
>>>>> SVN somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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