[SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears

Geoff Stearns geoff at deconcept.com
Tue Jun 27 21:39:08 PDT 2006 

i just grabbed the 'real' opera 9 (so far I had only tested using the  
beta) and it is working just fine on OS X with Flash Player 8.

can anyone else look at this to verify the issue?

Daniel: Can you look at my page and tell me if it also requires the  
click to activate?

http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html

also can you maybe post a screenshot? it's very odd that opera would  
do this since the eolas folks only sued Microsoft, and I haven't  
heard any news about any changes...


On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Daniel Klein wrote:

> Follow-up to previous email: I've just installed the latest Flash
> Player, version 9 Beta. I had to install two versions, one for IE, the
> other for Opera and every other browser. Opera 9 still requires click
> activation. You can check this out by comparing
> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/bliptest4.html (click activation) to
> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html (no click activation).
> Also it doesn't say anywhere on the http://blog.deconcept.com/ 
> swfobject/
> page to include the first JavaScript link within the <head> tags.  
> Maybe
> it would be a good idea to mention this?
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:41:45 +1000, "Daniel Klein"
> <danielklein at airpost.net> said:
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up. I thought I had inserted the code as  
>> described
>> on the site but I was in a hurry. I will try it at the first
>> opportunity.
>>
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> I need the site to work identically :) in all browsers so SWFObject
>> still makes sense. I'll try reinstalling the Flash Player, however,
>> Opera 9 has only been out for less than a week. Has anyone else  
>> tested
>> it or noticed different behaviour from it?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:02:16 -0400, "Geoff Stearns"
>> <geoff at deconcept.com> said:
>>> opera doesn't require the click to activate - there must be  
>>> something
>>> funky going on in your browser.
>>>
>>> if you ever have issues, you can always do this:
>>>
>>> 1) check my test/example page - make sure that my page works, if it
>>> does and yours is broken, then there's something wrong with your  
>>> code.
>>> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html
>>>
>>> 2) uninstall and reinstall the flash player - often times the player
>>> gets corrupt from switching versions around or installing new
>>> browsers that we as developers often do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:30:56 +0100, "colin @ spikemultimedia.co.uk"
>> <colin.murdoch at spikemultimedia.co.uk> said:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script> ->  
>>> needs to
>>> be
>>> within the <head>.....</head>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin Murdoch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
>>> Daniel Klein
>>> Sent: 27 June 2006 08:26
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Marc,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Opera usually uses the Netscape plugin, however, I haven't  
>>> checked this
>>>
>>> recently for Flash Player. I've used every version of Opera 8 up  
>>> until
>>>
>>> the last (8.54) before version 9 came out and none of them needed  
>>> click
>>>
>>> activation. But on to the important issue! The address is
>>>
>>> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html It's still under
>>>
>>> construction which is why it's in the /test/ directory so if a  
>>> couple of
>>>
>>> things don't work in the movie you can either ignore them or tell me
>>>
>>> what doesn't work so I can debug it :) If you can work out why it
>>>
>>> doesn't show first time I would be very grateful!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:04:59 +1000, "Marc Castles"
>>>
>>> <marc at peaksoftware.com.au> said:
>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Just so you know.. Opera uses the internet explorer flash  
>>>> plugin. That
>>>
>>>> is why you are getting the activate option in opera. Have you  
>>>> got a link
>>>
>>>> to the page that is causing the error?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Marc Castles
>>>
>>>> Peak Software 8 Field Street, Ballarat Vic 3350
>>>
>>>> PH: 03 5334 4752
>>>
>>>> FAX: 03 5333 7411
>>>
>>>> MB: 0421 636 775
>>>
>>>> www.peaksoftware.com.au
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>>>
>>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
>>>> Daniel Klein
>>>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 5:01 PM
>>>
>>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>
>>>> Subject: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I noticed that IE required clicking on content to activate and I  
>>>> just
>>>
>>>> assumed it was Microsoft stupidity. However, I downloaded Opera  
>>>> 9 a few
>>>
>>>> days ago and it does the same thing now! I found SWFObject just  
>>>> in the
>>>
>>>> nick of time (totally by accident). However, since inserting the  
>>>> code in
>>>
>>>> the html page the Flash movie won't display the first time but  
>>>> will on
>>>
>>>> each subsequent occasion (e.g. refreshing the page). This  
>>>> happens once
>>>
>>>> on every computer I've tried after changing and re-uploading the  
>>>> Flash
>>>
>>>> movie. It does this in Safari under Mac OS 10.3, and on PC: IE,  
>>>> Opera
>>>
>>>> and Firefox using everything from Windows 98 to XP. Do you know  
>>>> how I
>>>
>>>> can fix this? Apart from this SWFObject is great!
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>>
>>>
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