[SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears

Tue Jun 27 22:00:37 PDT 2006

Hi Geoff,

The page works fine without having to click on it. However, I am not
having any problems with pages loaded by SWFObject needing activation
(such as the link you sent me). SWFObject is working properly. Using
Opera 9 I have been to a few sites not using any method of
"preactivating" and they now require a click to activate the same as in
IE. I have attached a screenshot from www.streets.com.au  I anticipate
that as soon as I make the changes in my code suggested by Colin that my
(friend's) site will work perfectly in all current browsers. I should be
able to change it in about 4 hours from the time of this post when I get
home from work :) 

To clarify my previous email,
http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/bliptest4.html is the old code before I
discovered SWFObject, http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html is
the new code with SWFObject included.

Cheers

Daniel

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:39:08 -0400, "Geoff Stearns"
<geoff at deconcept.com> said:
> i just grabbed the 'real' opera 9 (so far I had only tested using the  
> beta) and it is working just fine on OS X with Flash Player 8.
> 
> can anyone else look at this to verify the issue?
> 
> Daniel: Can you look at my page and tell me if it also requires the  
> click to activate?
> 
> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html
> 
> also can you maybe post a screenshot? it's very odd that opera would  
> do this since the eolas folks only sued Microsoft, and I haven't  
> heard any news about any changes...
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Daniel Klein wrote:
> 
> > Follow-up to previous email: I've just installed the latest Flash
> > Player, version 9 Beta. I had to install two versions, one for IE, the
> > other for Opera and every other browser. Opera 9 still requires click
> > activation. You can check this out by comparing
> > http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/bliptest4.html (click activation) to
> > http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html (no click activation).
> > Also it doesn't say anywhere on the http://blog.deconcept.com/ 
> > swfobject/
> > page to include the first JavaScript link within the <head> tags.  
> > Maybe
> > it would be a good idea to mention this?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:41:45 +1000, "Daniel Klein"
> > <danielklein at airpost.net> said:
> >> Hi Colin,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the heads up. I thought I had inserted the code as  
> >> described
> >> on the site but I was in a hurry. I will try it at the first
> >> opportunity.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Geoff,
> >>
> >> I need the site to work identically :) in all browsers so SWFObject
> >> still makes sense. I'll try reinstalling the Flash Player, however,
> >> Opera 9 has only been out for less than a week. Has anyone else  
> >> tested
> >> it or noticed different behaviour from it?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:02:16 -0400, "Geoff Stearns"
> >> <geoff at deconcept.com> said:
> >>> opera doesn't require the click to activate - there must be  
> >>> something
> >>> funky going on in your browser.
> >>>
> >>> if you ever have issues, you can always do this:
> >>>
> >>> 1) check my test/example page - make sure that my page works, if it
> >>> does and yours is broken, then there's something wrong with your  
> >>> code.
> >>> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html
> >>>
> >>> 2) uninstall and reinstall the flash player - often times the player
> >>> gets corrupt from switching versions around or installing new
> >>> browsers that we as developers often do.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:30:56 +0100, "colin @ spikemultimedia.co.uk"
> >> <colin.murdoch at spikemultimedia.co.uk> said:
> >>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script> ->  
> >>> needs to
> >>> be
> >>> within the <head>.....</head>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Colin Murdoch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> >>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
> >>> Daniel Klein
> >>> Sent: 27 June 2006 08:26
> >>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Marc,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Opera usually uses the Netscape plugin, however, I haven't  
> >>> checked this
> >>>
> >>> recently for Flash Player. I've used every version of Opera 8 up  
> >>> until
> >>>
> >>> the last (8.54) before version 9 came out and none of them needed  
> >>> click
> >>>
> >>> activation. But on to the important issue! The address is
> >>>
> >>> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html It's still under
> >>>
> >>> construction which is why it's in the /test/ directory so if a  
> >>> couple of
> >>>
> >>> things don't work in the movie you can either ignore them or tell me
> >>>
> >>> what doesn't work so I can debug it :) If you can work out why it
> >>>
> >>> doesn't show first time I would be very grateful!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:04:59 +1000, "Marc Castles"
> >>>
> >>> <marc at peaksoftware.com.au> said:
> >>>
> >>>> Daniel,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Just so you know.. Opera uses the internet explorer flash  
> >>>> plugin. That
> >>>
> >>>> is why you are getting the activate option in opera. Have you  
> >>>> got a link
> >>>
> >>>> to the page that is causing the error?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Marc
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Marc Castles
> >>>
> >>>> Peak Software 8 Field Street, Ballarat Vic 3350
> >>>
> >>>> PH: 03 5334 4752
> >>>
> >>>> FAX: 03 5333 7411
> >>>
> >>>> MB: 0421 636 775
> >>>
> >>>> www.peaksoftware.com.au
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> >>>
> >>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
> >>>> Daniel Klein
> >>>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 5:01 PM
> >>>
> >>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> >>>
> >>>> Subject: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello!
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> I noticed that IE required clicking on content to activate and I  
> >>>> just
> >>>
> >>>> assumed it was Microsoft stupidity. However, I downloaded Opera  
> >>>> 9 a few
> >>>
> >>>> days ago and it does the same thing now! I found SWFObject just  
> >>>> in the
> >>>
> >>>> nick of time (totally by accident). However, since inserting the  
> >>>> code in
> >>>
> >>>> the html page the Flash movie won't display the first time but  
> >>>> will on
> >>>
> >>>> each subsequent occasion (e.g. refreshing the page). This  
> >>>> happens once
> >>>
> >>>> on every computer I've tried after changing and re-uploading the  
> >>>> Flash
> >>>
> >>>> movie. It does this in Safari under Mac OS 10.3, and on PC: IE,  
> >>>> Opera
> >>>
> >>>> and Firefox using everything from Windows 98 to XP. Do you know  
> >>>> how I
> >>>
> >>>> can fix this? Apart from this SWFObject is great!
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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