[SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears

Daniel Klein danielklein at airpost.net
Wed Jun 28 04:40:44 PDT 2006


Hi Colin,

I've put the first JavaScript code in the header but it hasn't made any
difference. Anyone have any other ideas?

Cheers

Daniel

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:00:37 +1000, "Daniel Klein"
<danielklein at airpost.net> said:
> Hi Geoff,
> 
> The page works fine without having to click on it. However, I am not
> having any problems with pages loaded by SWFObject needing activation
> (such as the link you sent me). SWFObject is working properly. Using
> Opera 9 I have been to a few sites not using any method of
> "preactivating" and they now require a click to activate the same as in
> IE. I have attached a screenshot from www.streets.com.au  I anticipate
> that as soon as I make the changes in my code suggested by Colin that my
> (friend's) site will work perfectly in all current browsers. I should be
> able to change it in about 4 hours from the time of this post when I get
> home from work :) 
> 
> To clarify my previous email,
> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/bliptest4.html is the old code before I
> discovered SWFObject, http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html is
> the new code with SWFObject included.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:39:08 -0400, "Geoff Stearns"
> <geoff at deconcept.com> said:
> > i just grabbed the 'real' opera 9 (so far I had only tested using the  
> > beta) and it is working just fine on OS X with Flash Player 8.
> > 
> > can anyone else look at this to verify the issue?
> > 
> > Daniel: Can you look at my page and tell me if it also requires the  
> > click to activate?
> > 
> > http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html
> > 
> > also can you maybe post a screenshot? it's very odd that opera would  
> > do this since the eolas folks only sued Microsoft, and I haven't  
> > heard any news about any changes...
> > 
> > 
> > On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Daniel Klein wrote:
> > 
> > > Follow-up to previous email: I've just installed the latest Flash
> > > Player, version 9 Beta. I had to install two versions, one for IE, the
> > > other for Opera and every other browser. Opera 9 still requires click
> > > activation. You can check this out by comparing
> > > http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/bliptest4.html (click activation) to
> > > http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html (no click activation).
> > > Also it doesn't say anywhere on the http://blog.deconcept.com/ 
> > > swfobject/
> > > page to include the first JavaScript link within the <head> tags.  
> > > Maybe
> > > it would be a good idea to mention this?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:41:45 +1000, "Daniel Klein"
> > > <danielklein at airpost.net> said:
> > >> Hi Colin,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the heads up. I thought I had inserted the code as  
> > >> described
> > >> on the site but I was in a hurry. I will try it at the first
> > >> opportunity.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Geoff,
> > >>
> > >> I need the site to work identically :) in all browsers so SWFObject
> > >> still makes sense. I'll try reinstalling the Flash Player, however,
> > >> Opera 9 has only been out for less than a week. Has anyone else  
> > >> tested
> > >> it or noticed different behaviour from it?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >>
> > >> Daniel
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:02:16 -0400, "Geoff Stearns"
> > >> <geoff at deconcept.com> said:
> > >>> opera doesn't require the click to activate - there must be  
> > >>> something
> > >>> funky going on in your browser.
> > >>>
> > >>> if you ever have issues, you can always do this:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) check my test/example page - make sure that my page works, if it
> > >>> does and yours is broken, then there's something wrong with your  
> > >>> code.
> > >>> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/swfobject.html
> > >>>
> > >>> 2) uninstall and reinstall the flash player - often times the player
> > >>> gets corrupt from switching versions around or installing new
> > >>> browsers that we as developers often do.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:30:56 +0100, "colin @ spikemultimedia.co.uk"
> > >> <colin.murdoch at spikemultimedia.co.uk> said:
> > >>> Hi Daniel,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> <script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script> ->  
> > >>> needs to
> > >>> be
> > >>> within the <head>.....</head>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Colin Murdoch
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> > >>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
> > >>> Daniel Klein
> > >>> Sent: 27 June 2006 08:26
> > >>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Marc,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Opera usually uses the Netscape plugin, however, I haven't  
> > >>> checked this
> > >>>
> > >>> recently for Flash Player. I've used every version of Opera 8 up  
> > >>> until
> > >>>
> > >>> the last (8.54) before version 9 came out and none of them needed  
> > >>> click
> > >>>
> > >>> activation. But on to the important issue! The address is
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.caveboy.com.au/test/loadtest4.html It's still under
> > >>>
> > >>> construction which is why it's in the /test/ directory so if a  
> > >>> couple of
> > >>>
> > >>> things don't work in the movie you can either ignore them or tell me
> > >>>
> > >>> what doesn't work so I can debug it :) If you can work out why it
> > >>>
> > >>> doesn't show first time I would be very grateful!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Daniel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:04:59 +1000, "Marc Castles"
> > >>>
> > >>> <marc at peaksoftware.com.au> said:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Daniel,
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Just so you know.. Opera uses the internet explorer flash  
> > >>>> plugin. That
> > >>>
> > >>>> is why you are getting the activate option in opera. Have you  
> > >>>> got a link
> > >>>
> > >>>> to the page that is causing the error?
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Marc
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Marc Castles
> > >>>
> > >>>> Peak Software 8 Field Street, Ballarat Vic 3350
> > >>>
> > >>>> PH: 03 5334 4752
> > >>>
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> > >>>> www.peaksoftware.com.au
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> > >>>
> > >>>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of  
> > >>>> Daniel Klein
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 5:01 PM
> > >>>
> > >>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> > >>>
> > >>>> Subject: [SWFObject] Refreshing page before Flash movie appears
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello!
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> I noticed that IE required clicking on content to activate and I  
> > >>>> just
> > >>>
> > >>>> assumed it was Microsoft stupidity. However, I downloaded Opera  
> > >>>> 9 a few
> > >>>
> > >>>> days ago and it does the same thing now! I found SWFObject just  
> > >>>> in the
> > >>>
> > >>>> nick of time (totally by accident). However, since inserting the  
> > >>>> code in
> > >>>
> > >>>> the html page the Flash movie won't display the first time but  
> > >>>> will on
> > >>>
> > >>>> each subsequent occasion (e.g. refreshing the page). This  
> > >>>> happens once
> > >>>
> > >>>> on every computer I've tried after changing and re-uploading the  
> > >>>> Flash
> > >>>
> > >>>> movie. It does this in Safari under Mac OS 10.3, and on PC: IE,  
> > >>>> Opera
> > >>>
> > >>>> and Firefox using everything from Windows 98 to XP. Do you know  
> > >>>> how I
> > >>>
> > >>>> can fix this? Apart from this SWFObject is great!
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Cheers
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Daniel
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
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