[SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
Geoff Stearns
geoff at deconcept.com
Mon May 1 13:56:00 PDT 2006
how strange, we worked on this for a couple hours last night and had
it working fine even with swfobject writing the code but when we took
the id out it would start working fine.
when we put the id back in it would start crapping out.
we'll have to investigate a bit more.
On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>
>
> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
> attribute is omitted)
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html (id is
> used)
>
> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>
> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write the
> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to cause
> any problems.
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>
> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/
> test.js
>
> Hope it helps
>
> gd
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 1. Is Express Install down? (Robert Kruse)
> 2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
> 3. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
> 4. SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
> (Gene Dymarskiy)
> 5. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
> (Geoff Stearns)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
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> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
> Flash
> 7.
> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>
> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
> contact
> with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at Adobe - I
> haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is migrating
> the
> Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the upgrade is
> broken.
>
> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>
> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
> feel free :)
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>
>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>> Flash 7.
>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>
>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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> here's the word:
>
> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites macromedia.com
> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
> address."
>
> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the issue
> is resolved, flip it back on.
>
> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
> specify
> the background color in the constructor)
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>
>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>> upgrade is broken.
>>
>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>
>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>> feel free :)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>> then
>
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
> player
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> Hi,
>
> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we use
> however there is one exception - when the script is used in windows/IE
> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2. The
> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio
> does not
> stop streaming.
>
> You can observe this behavior at
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>
> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
> unloads
> properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),
> though we
> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
> different player that is using progressive download instead of
> streaming
> which works fine.
>
> Have you come across similar issues?
>
> Thank you
>
> gd
>
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> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
> player
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> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>
> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>
> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it doesn't
> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an
> 'id'
> attribute on your object tag.
>
> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will
> disable
> just fine.
>
> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")
> [0]
> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>
> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,
> you
> can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id attribute
> when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the compressed
> version
> of swfobject.js)
>
> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>
> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we
> got
> it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a
> lot of
> reworking of things.
>
> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to put
> together a test case to show them the issue.
>
> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -
> just
> use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything else,
> and
> put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the other page and
> see what happens.
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>> use
>
>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>> windows/IE
>
>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>> The
>
>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>> not stop streaming.
>>
>> You can observe this behavior at http://partners.ibctv.com/
>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>
>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding ( http://
>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ), though we get
>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>> streaming which works fine.
>>
>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
>>
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