[SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player

Geoff Stearns geoff at deconcept.com
Mon May 1 14:20:25 PDT 2006


we were thinking it might be related to ExternalInterface as well.

Could you add a callback inside your swf and test it?

just do something easy:

flash.external.ExternalInterface.addCallback("test", null,  
testFunction);

function testFunction() {
// do nothing
}

and see if it still all works?

are you using externalinterface in your other movies?



On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:

>
> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>
>
> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
> attribute is omitted)
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html  (id is  
> used)
>
> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>
> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write the
> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to cause
> any problems.
>
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>
> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/ 
> test.js
>
> Hope it helps
>
> gd
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
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>
> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with  
> Flash
> 7.
> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>
> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in  
> contact
> with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at Adobe - I
> haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is migrating  
> the
> Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the upgrade is
> broken.
>
> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>
> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
> feel free :)
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>
>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>> Flash 7.
>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>
>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
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> here's the word:
>
> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites macromedia.com
> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
> address."
>
> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the issue
> is resolved, flip it back on.
>
> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you  
> specify
> the background color in the constructor)
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>
>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>> upgrade is broken.
>>
>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>
>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>> feel free :)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,  
>>> then
>
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming  flash
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> Hi,
>
> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we use
> however there is one exception - when the script is used in windows/IE
> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2. The
> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio  
> does not
> stop streaming.
>
> You can observe this behavior at
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>
> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player  
> unloads
> properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),   
> though we
> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
> different player that is using progressive download instead of  
> streaming
> which works fine.
>
> Have you come across similar issues?
>
> Thank you
>
> gd
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
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> 	player
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> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>
> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>
> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it doesn't
> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an  
> 'id'
> attribute on your object tag.
>
> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will  
> disable
> just fine.
>
> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")  
> [0]
> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>
> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,  
> you
> can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id attribute
> when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the compressed  
> version
> of swfobject.js)
>
> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>
> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we  
> got
> it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a  
> lot of
> reworking of things.
>
> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to put
> together a test case to show them the issue.
>
> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -  
> just
> use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything else,  
> and
> put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the other page and
> see what happens.
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we  
>> use
>
>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in  
>> windows/IE
>
>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.  
>> The
>
>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>> not stop streaming.
>>
>> You can observe this behavior at  http://partners.ibctv.com/
>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>
>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding ( http://
>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),  though we get
>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>> streaming which works fine.
>>
>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
>>
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