[SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash

Geoff Stearns geoff at deconcept.com
Mon May 1 15:02:56 PDT 2006


yeah that would be great - will i be able to stream stuff to my  
server from yours though?

(thinking of crossdomain issues)





On May 1, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:

> Geoff
>
> We do not use any external interfaces in streaming player. the player
> was given to us by FMS provider (influxis).
>
>
> We do have a progressive download player that is using external
> javascript controls. we have no problems loading it with flashobject.
>
>
> I can forward you the FLA file of streaming player, a few skins  and a
> sample comfit file so that you can make the changes and test it
> yourself.   Would you like me to do it?
>
> gd
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:20:25 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
> 	player
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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> we were thinking it might be related to ExternalInterface as well.
>
> Could you add a callback inside your swf and test it?
>
> just do something easy:
>
> flash.external.ExternalInterface.addCallback("test", null,
> testFunction);
>
> function testFunction() {
> // do nothing
> }
>
> and see if it still all works?
>
> are you using externalinterface in your other movies?
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>>
>>
>> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
>> attribute is omitted)
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html  (id is
>> used)
>>
>> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
>> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>>
>> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write  
>> the
>
>> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to cause
>> any problems.
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>>
>> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/
>> test.js
>>
>> Hope it helps
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>    1. Is Express Install down? (Robert Kruse)
>>    2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>    3. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>    4. SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming  flash player
>>       (Gene Dymarskiy)
>>    5. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>       (Geoff Stearns)
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
>> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
>> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID: <C07BB97F.BD53%rkruse at 2440media.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>> Flash 7.
>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>
>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <1E2842DB-FE18-481F-A5A9-F1DA7FDE294F at deconcept.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>> upgrade is broken.
>>
>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>
>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>> feel free :)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,  
>>> then
>
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SWFObject mailing list
>>> SWFObject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <44DD9145-945F-465B-88EA-BB3A57D846A7 at deconcept.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> here's the word:
>>
>> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites  
>> macromedia.com
>
>> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
>> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
>> address."
>>
>> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
>> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the  
>> issue
>
>> is resolved, flip it back on.
>>
>> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
>> specify the background color in the constructor)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>
>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so  
>>> the
>
>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>
>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the  
>>> 'download
>
>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --  
>>> or if
>
>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>>> feel free :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>> Flash 7.
>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>> then
>>
>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is  
>>>> this a
>
>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:16:52 -0500
>> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
>> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming  flash
>> 	player
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we  
>> use
>
>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in  
>> windows/IE
>
>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.  
>> The
>
>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>> not stop streaming.
>>
>> You can observe this behavior at
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>
>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),
>> though we
>> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>> streaming which works fine.
>>
>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>> 	player
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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>> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>>
>> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>>
>> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it  
>> doesn't
>
>> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an
>> 'id'
>> attribute on your object tag.
>>
>> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will
>> disable just fine.
>>
>> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
>> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
>> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")
>> [0]
>> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>>
>> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,
>> you can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id
>> attribute when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the
>> compressed version of swfobject.js)
>>
>> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>>
>> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we
>> got it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a
>> lot of reworking of things.
>>
>> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to  
>> put
>
>> together a test case to show them the issue.
>>
>> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -
>> just use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything
>> else, and put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the
>> other page and see what happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>> use
>>
>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>> windows/IE
>>
>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>> The
>>
>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>>> not stop streaming.
>>>
>>> You can observe this behavior at  http://partners.ibctv.com/
>>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>
>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding ( http://
>>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),  though we get
>>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>
>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:26:44 -0500
> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
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> Oh, the workaround you suggested totally did the trick. Once I removed
> id tag the weirdness was gone.
>
> However there is got to be more to this since in all other examples id
> attribute did not cause any problems
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>    2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Michael Williams)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:56:00 -0400
> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
> 	player
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> Message-ID: <2703ECB6-1C7F-4D70-8F65-F969996C8A8E at deconcept.com>
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> how strange, we worked on this for a couple hours last night and  
> had it
> working fine even with swfobject writing the code but when we took the
> id out it would start working fine.
>
> when we put the id back in it would start crapping out.
>
> we'll have to investigate a bit more.
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>>
>>
>> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
>> attribute is omitted)
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html  (id is
>> used)
>>
>> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
>> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>>
>> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write  
>> the
>
>> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to cause
>> any problems.
>>
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>>
>> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/
>> test.js
>>
>> Hope it helps
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of
>> swfobject-request at lists.deconcept.com
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Is Express Install down? (Robert Kruse)
>>    2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>    3. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>    4. SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming  flash player
>>       (Gene Dymarskiy)
>>    5. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>       (Geoff Stearns)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
>> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
>> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID: <C07BB97F.BD53%rkruse at 2440media.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>> Flash 7.
>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit, then
>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>
>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <1E2842DB-FE18-481F-A5A9-F1DA7FDE294F at deconcept.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>> upgrade is broken.
>>
>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>
>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>> feel free :)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,  
>>> then
>
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SWFObject mailing list
>>> SWFObject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <44DD9145-945F-465B-88EA-BB3A57D846A7 at deconcept.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> here's the word:
>>
>> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites  
>> macromedia.com
>
>> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
>> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
>> address."
>>
>> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
>> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the  
>> issue
>
>> is resolved, flip it back on.
>>
>> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
>> specify the background color in the constructor)
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>
>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so  
>>> the
>
>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>
>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the  
>>> 'download
>
>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --  
>>> or if
>
>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>>> feel free :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>> Flash 7.
>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>> then
>>
>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is  
>>>> this a
>
>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:16:52 -0500
>> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
>> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming  flash
>> 	player
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we  
>> use
>
>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in  
>> windows/IE
>
>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.  
>> The
>
>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>> not stop streaming.
>>
>> You can observe this behavior at
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>
>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),
>> though we
>> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>> streaming which works fine.
>>
>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>> 	player
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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>>
>> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>>
>> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>>
>> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it  
>> doesn't
>
>> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an
>> 'id'
>> attribute on your object tag.
>>
>> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will
>> disable just fine.
>>
>> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
>> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
>> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")
>> [0]
>> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>>
>> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,
>> you can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id
>> attribute when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the
>> compressed version of swfobject.js)
>>
>> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>>
>> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we
>> got it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a
>> lot of reworking of things.
>>
>> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to  
>> put
>
>> together a test case to show them the issue.
>>
>> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -
>> just use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything
>> else, and put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the
>> other page and see what happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>> use
>>
>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>> windows/IE
>>
>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>> The
>>
>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>>> not stop streaming.
>>>
>>> You can observe this behavior at  http://partners.ibctv.com/
>>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>
>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding ( http://
>>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),  though we get
>>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" .  We have a
>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>
>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:10:54 -0700
> From: "Michael Williams" <miwillia at adobe.com>
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<55BAE55B0193F54994544B279BF7BA0CCA5EB3 at namail4.corp.adobe.com>
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>
> Express Install has been repaired. Let me know if you still have
> problems.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Williams
>
> Flash Player Stuff
>
> Adobe Systems Inc.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of dayvid  
> jones
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:26 PM
> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>
>
>
> Man O man, thanks Geoff.  If it wasn't for you and the people on this
> list, I wouldn't even now about things like this.  We, and Adobe, owe
> you BIG TIME!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> here's the word:
>
>
>
> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites macromedia.com
> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
> address."
>
>
>
> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the issue
> is resolved, flip it back on.
>
>
>
> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you  
> specify
> the background color in the constructor)
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>
> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>
> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>
> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>
> upgrade is broken.
>
>
>
> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>
> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>
>
>
> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>
> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>
> feel free :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>
>
>
> 	I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6
> with
>
> 	Flash 7.
>
> 	The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>
>
> 	then says
>
> 	"A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>
>
> 	problem with
>
> 	the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>
> 	
>
> 	http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>
> 	
>
> 	
>
> 	Thanks.
>
> 	
>
> 	
>
> 	
>
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