[SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
Geoff Stearns
geoff at deconcept.com
Tue May 16 08:36:11 PDT 2006
attached is swfobject 1.4.1 preview release - the only change to the
code is an extra bit that does some cleanup when the page unloads.
this is a fix for a problem where using innerHTML *and* flash media
server to stream a video or audio, and when the user left the page or
reloaded it, the audio would continue.
this is a known bug and adobe knows about it (i got the code from an
adobe engineer and modified it a bit to work better with swfobject
and general pages).
if anyone is using flash media server and swfobject, or has tried in
the past and gave up due to this bug, please try the attached file
and let me know how it works for you.
also if anyone wants to try this with existing non-streaming
swfobject pages, that would be good to make sure i didn't introduce
any new bugs into the code.
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On May 1, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
> yeah that would be great - will i be able to stream stuff to my
> server from yours though?
>
> (thinking of crossdomain issues)
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>
>> Geoff
>>
>> We do not use any external interfaces in streaming player. the player
>> was given to us by FMS provider (influxis).
>>
>>
>> We do have a progressive download player that is using external
>> javascript controls. we have no problems loading it with flashobject.
>>
>>
>> I can forward you the FLA file of streaming player, a few skins
>> and a
>> sample comfit file so that you can make the changes and test it
>> yourself. Would you like me to do it?
>>
>> gd
>>
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>> (Geoff Stearns)
>> 2. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash (Gene
>> Dymarskiy)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:20:25 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>> player
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <0195D014-C91D-412F-8844-C4EAEB489EF6 at deconcept.com>
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>>
>> we were thinking it might be related to ExternalInterface as well.
>>
>> Could you add a callback inside your swf and test it?
>>
>> just do something easy:
>>
>> flash.external.ExternalInterface.addCallback("test", null,
>> testFunction);
>>
>> function testFunction() {
>> // do nothing
>> }
>>
>> and see if it still all works?
>>
>> are you using externalinterface in your other movies?
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>>>
>>>
>>> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
>>> attribute is omitted)
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html (id is
>>> used)
>>>
>>> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
>>> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>>>
>>> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write
>>> the
>>
>>> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to
>>> cause
>>> any problems.
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>>>
>>> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/
>>> test.js
>>>
>>> Hope it helps
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Is Express Install down? (Robert Kruse)
>>> 2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>> 3. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>> 4. SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>> (Gene Dymarskiy)
>>> 5. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>> (Geoff Stearns)
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
>>> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
>>> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>>> Message-ID: <C07BB97F.BD53%rkruse at 2440media.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>> then
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Message-ID: <1E2842DB-FE18-481F-A5A9-F1DA7FDE294F at deconcept.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so
>>> the
>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>
>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the
>>> 'download
>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --
>>> or if
>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>>> feel free :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>> Flash 7.
>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>> then
>>
>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is
>>>> this a
>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SWFObject mailing list
>>>> SWFObject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Message-ID: <44DD9145-945F-465B-88EA-BB3A57D846A7 at deconcept.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> here's the word:
>>>
>>> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites
>>> macromedia.com
>>
>>> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
>>> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an
>>> adobe.com IP
>>> address."
>>>
>>> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
>>> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the
>>> issue
>>
>>> is resolved, flip it back on.
>>>
>>> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
>>> specify the background color in the constructor)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so
>>>> the
>>
>>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>>
>>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the
>>>> 'download
>>
>>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --
>>>> or if
>>
>>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info,
>>>> please
>>>> feel free :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>>> Flash 7.
>>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>>> then
>>>
>>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is
>>>>> this a
>>
>>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server
>>>>> down?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:16:52 -0500
>>> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
>>> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>>> player
>>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <960BF66DD5A121408ABDB7BA2591D6FC43345B at ibctvmail.ibctv.com>
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>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>> use
>>
>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>> windows/IE
>>
>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>> The
>>
>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>>> not stop streaming.
>>>
>>> You can observe this behavior at
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>
>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),
>>> though we
>>> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>
>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>>> player
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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>>>
>>> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>>>
>>> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>>>
>>> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it
>>> doesn't
>>
>>> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an
>>> 'id'
>>> attribute on your object tag.
>>>
>>> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will
>>> disable just fine.
>>>
>>> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
>>> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
>>> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")
>>> [0]
>>> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>>>
>>> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,
>>> you can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id
>>> attribute when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the
>>> compressed version of swfobject.js)
>>>
>>> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>>>
>>> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we
>>> got it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a
>>> lot of reworking of things.
>>>
>>> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to
>>> put
>>
>>> together a test case to show them the issue.
>>>
>>> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -
>>> just use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything
>>> else, and put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the
>>> other page and see what happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>>> use
>>>
>>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>>> windows/IE
>>>
>>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>>> The
>>>
>>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio
>>>> does
>>>> not stop streaming.
>>>>
>>>> You can observe this behavior at http://partners.ibctv.com/
>>>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding
>>>> ( http://
>>>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ), though we
>>>> get
>>>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
>>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>>
>>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> gd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SWFObject mailing list
>>>> SWFObject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com
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>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:26:44 -0500
>> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <960BF66DD5A121408ABDB7BA2591D6FC43346D at ibctvmail.ibctv.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Oh, the workaround you suggested totally did the trick. Once I
>> removed
>> id tag the weirdness was gone.
>>
>> However there is got to be more to this since in all other
>> examples id
>> attribute did not cause any problems
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of
>> swfobject-request at lists.deconcept.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:11 PM
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
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>>
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>> "Re: Contents of SWFObject digest..."
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>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>> (Geoff Stearns)
>> 2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Michael Williams)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:56:00 -0400
>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>> player
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Message-ID: <2703ECB6-1C7F-4D70-8F65-F969996C8A8E at deconcept.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>> how strange, we worked on this for a couple hours last night and
>> had it
>> working fine even with swfobject writing the code but when we took
>> the
>> id out it would start working fine.
>>
>> when we put the id back in it would start crapping out.
>>
>> we'll have to investigate a bit more.
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for the work-around!
>>>
>>>
>>> I set up two pages as you requested using plain HTML to embed flash.
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_no_id.html (id
>>> attribute is omitted)
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html (id is
>>> used)
>>>
>>> Both work properly. ID attribute does not seem to matter. The issue
>>> comes up only when swfobject writes the code.
>>>
>>> I also set up a test page that is using simple javascript to write
>>> the
>>
>>> code just to see if that matters. id attribute does not seem to
>>> cause
>>> any problems.
>>>
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/js_id.html
>>>
>>> Javascript file http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/
>>> test.js
>>>
>>> Hope it helps
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Is Express Install down? (Robert Kruse)
>>> 2. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>> 3. Re: Is Express Install down? (Geoff Stearns)
>>> 4. SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>> (Gene Dymarskiy)
>>> 5. Re: SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash player
>>> (Geoff Stearns)
>>>
>>>
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>>> -
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:11:27 -0400
>>> From: Robert Kruse <rkruse at 2440media.com>
>>> Subject: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>>> Message-ID: <C07BB97F.BD53%rkruse at 2440media.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>> Flash 7.
>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>> then
>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>
>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:54:47 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Message-ID: <1E2842DB-FE18-481F-A5A9-F1DA7FDE294F at deconcept.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so
>>> the
>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>
>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the
>>> 'download
>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>
>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --
>>> or if
>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>>> feel free :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>
>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>> Flash 7.
>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>> then
>>
>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is
>>>> this a
>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SWFObject mailing list
>>>> SWFObject at lists.deconcept.com
>>>> http://lists.deconcept.com/listinfo.cgi/swfobject-deconcept.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:04:29 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Message-ID: <44DD9145-945F-465B-88EA-BB3A57D846A7 at deconcept.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> here's the word:
>>>
>>> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites
>>> macromedia.com
>>
>>> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
>>> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an
>>> adobe.com IP
>>> address."
>>>
>>> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
>>> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the
>>> issue
>>
>>> is resolved, flip it back on.
>>>
>>> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
>>> specify the background color in the constructor)
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so
>>>> the
>>
>>>> upgrade is broken.
>>>>
>>>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the
>>>> 'download
>>
>>>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe --
>>>> or if
>>
>>>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info,
>>>> please
>>>> feel free :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6 with
>>>>> Flash 7.
>>>>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>>>> then
>>>
>>>>> says "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is
>>>>> this a
>>
>>>>> problem with the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server
>>>>> down?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:16:52 -0500
>>> From: "Gene Dymarskiy" <gdymarskiy at ibctv.com>
>>> Subject: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>>> player
>>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <960BF66DD5A121408ABDB7BA2591D6FC43345B at ibctvmail.ibctv.com>
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>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>> use
>>
>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>> windows/IE
>>
>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>> The
>>
>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio does
>>> not stop streaming.
>>>
>>> You can observe this behavior at
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>
>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding (
>>> http://partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ),
>>> though we
>>> get activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>
>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> gd
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:33:50 -0400
>>> From: Geoff Stearns <geoff at deconcept.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] SWFObjets in Windows/IE and streaming flash
>>> player
>>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>>> Message-ID: <0FCCA9FD-319A-43FE-839A-2F162BD78766 at deconcept.com>
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>>>
>>> As a matter of fact, I have. (it's like deja vu all over again!)
>>>
>>> Last night we found a bug that does just this.
>>>
>>> The issue occurs when you are using streaming media and IE (it
>>> doesn't
>>
>>> happen in any other browsers) and it only happens if you include an
>>> 'id'
>>> attribute on your object tag.
>>>
>>> Once you take the id out, it will work fine and the player will
>>> disable just fine.
>>>
>>> The big drawback to this is that you can't use external interface to
>>> send data from js to flash without the id on the object tag (i tried
>>> everything else, using a name, using getElementsByTagName("OBJECT")
>>> [0]
>>> - i tried it all, and nothing worked until i put the id back on.
>>>
>>> So if you want a quick fix, and you aren't using externalinterface,
>>> you can just modify the swfobject script so that it omits the id
>>> attribute when it writes the object tag (look at line 69 in the
>>> compressed version of swfobject.js)
>>>
>>> and remove this part: id=\""+this.getAttribute("id")+"\"
>>>
>>> If you are using externalinterface, you are in for a rough time. we
>>> got it working, but it was a really complicated hack that required a
>>> lot of reworking of things.
>>>
>>> Adobe is aware of this issue as of last night, and we're hoping to
>>> put
>>
>>> together a test case to show them the issue.
>>>
>>> If you want to be awesome, you could set up a test case for them -
>>> just use a normal object/embed tag setup, no swfobject or anything
>>> else, and put an id on one of the pages, and leave the id off the
>>> other page and see what happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Gene Dymarskiy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am new user of this JS library. It works with most flash toys we
>>>> use
>>>
>>>> however there is one exception - when the script is used in
>>>> windows/IE
>>>
>>>> to embed flash player streaming content from Flash Media Server 2.
>>>> The
>>>
>>>> movie loads fine however, when users leaves the page, the audio
>>>> does
>>>> not stop streaming.
>>>>
>>>> You can observe this behavior at http://partners.ibctv.com/
>>>> streaming-flash-final/test_js.html
>>>>
>>>> Note that this does not happen in FireFox. Also, the same player
>>>> unloads properly when using in-line flash object embedding
>>>> ( http://
>>>> partners.ibctv.com/streaming-flash-final/test.html ), though we
>>>> get
>>>> activation warnings due to recent Microsoft "fixes" . We have a
>>>> different player that is using progressive download instead of
>>>> streaming which works fine.
>>>>
>>>> Have you come across similar issues?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> gd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:10:54 -0700
>> From: "Michael Williams" <miwillia at adobe.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>> To: <swfobject at lists.deconcept.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <55BAE55B0193F54994544B279BF7BA0CCA5EB3 at namail4.corp.adobe.com>
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>>
>> Express Install has been repaired. Let me know if you still have
>> problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Michael Williams
>>
>> Flash Player Stuff
>>
>> Adobe Systems Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com
>> [mailto:swfobject-bounces at lists.deconcept.com] On Behalf Of dayvid
>> jones
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:26 PM
>> To: swfobject at lists.deconcept.com
>> Subject: Re: [SWFObject] Is Express Install down?
>>
>>
>>
>> Man O man, thanks Geoff. If it wasn't for you and the people on this
>> list, I wouldn't even now about things like this. We, and Adobe, owe
>> you BIG TIME!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> here's the word:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Yes, this is a known issue. We migrated the main sites
>> macromedia.com
>> to adobe.com Sunday night, and there seems to be a DNS issue where
>> fpdownload.macromedia.com is incorrectly resolving to an adobe.com IP
>> address."
>>
>>
>>
>> so for now, I recommend just disabling ExpressInstall, so your users
>> will see your upgrade message or alternate content, and when the
>> issue
>> is resolved, flip it back on.
>>
>>
>>
>> (to disable it with swfobject, just remove the 'true' after you
>> specify
>> the background color in the constructor)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Geoff Stearns wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Another person IMed me ealier saying it was down, and he got in
>>
>> contact with Emmy Huang, who is the Flash Player product manager at
>>
>> Adobe - I haven't confirmed this with her yet, but I guess Adobe is
>>
>> migrating the Macromedia servers/urls over to Adobe.com today, so the
>>
>> upgrade is broken.
>>
>>
>>
>> I tested on my test expressinstall.html page, and I get the 'download
>>
>> failed' dialog as well - normally that page works fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more info from Adobe -- or if
>>
>> anyone on this list would like to share more 'official' info, please
>>
>> feel free :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Robert Kruse wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I turned on the Express Install feature and tested it on IE6
>> with
>>
>> Flash 7.
>>
>> The macromedia info box pops up, the blue thing spins for a bit,
>>
>>
>> then says
>>
>> "A download error occurred. Try to download again?" - is this a
>>
>>
>> problem with
>>
>> the swfobject script or is the Macromedia server down?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.hasleratlanta.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://www.dayvid.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ...shouldn't you be listening to Calico Radio?
>>
>> http://www.CalicoRadio.com
>>
>>
>>
>> music for the mAdNeSs!
>>
>> http://www.DJGecko.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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